By Agnes Shanley, Editor in ChiefPharmaceutical Manufacturing recently touched base with Steve Hammond, leader of Pfizers Process Analytical Support Group, and Pfizers control and IT experts Velumani Pillai and Martin Warman about the companys Open PAT initiative and how pharmaceutical PAT is taking shape within the industry in general. Heres what they had to say.P.M.: Pfizer has recently proposed an open IT interface for PAT. How has the pharmaceutical community received that initiative so far?S.H.: Its been received well. People understand the strategy of putting together a common commodity software for PAT. They also realize that, if this software is to succeed, it will need more than just a Pfizer, a GSK, or a Merck to use it.Having a common software for PAT across the industry that meets the FDA teams needs, will be good for everyone. The greatest benefit will be lower costs, especially costs for maintenance, which can be horrific if you have software custom-written for one company.P.M.: When did Pfizer first begin to work on standardizing IT interfaces for PAT?V.P.: Pfizer began working on standard software two years ago. We also formalized requirements and presented them to IFPATma and other end-user groups. The response from the supplier community has been encouraging so far.Meanwhile, our peers in the user community see the benefit in identifying common language, common functions, data standards and exchange protocols. The idea of plug and play for PAT may still be in its infancy, but the concept is achievable if end users and suppliers work together.P.M.: What are the most glaring missing links on the IT side right now? What are the components required and how should they fit together?M.W.: PAT articulates three paradigms of use namely, monitoring, control and optimization. PAT measurement applications are in different stages of maturity. The major problem right now is that the functions required to realize immediate value from PAT paradigms havent been clearly articulated.Once these functions have been articulated, the second major challenge will be introducing them into existing IT systems and infrastructures without changing those infrastructures. Pfizer believes that the functions related to any PAT measurement should be bundled and available as a commodity so that PAT can deliver value in a stand-alone mode or work with any existing infrastructure.P.M.: As you develop concepts for a standard user interface that would facilitate the development of off-the-shelf software, how will you guarantee that there will be one basic template, rather than a proliferation of different ones, with each drug manufacturer developing its own flavor (which would complicate things for vendors and could slow the effort)? V.P.: If the functions are defined, and common, Pfizer hopes that market-based standard offerings will emerge. We also believe that our peers in the industry are looking to embrace standard data definitions to exchange information across different components. In short, we believe the common PAT software will eventually be a new market, and deliver value in much the same way as SCADA and S-88-aware Batch Control Systems are today.P.M.: Isnt the ASTM E-55 committee including software standards development within the scope of its work on PAT? If there is overlap between what you and E-55 are doing, how will Pfizer's efforts dovetail with ASTM's?M.W.: Yes, there definitely are some parallel activities. We believe that the key is for end users to establish common working practices that can then become standards, rather than establishing standards which end users have to follow. Once best practices are established, they should be formalized via ASTM.P.M.: Getting top-level management support for PAT is a problem that Pfizer hasnt really had, but a lot of manufacturers are wrestling with right now. What suggestions do you have in this regard?S.H.: Weve been lucky to have leaders who believe that you should question the status quo in manufacturing, and that the recent philosophies coming from the FDA have some credence.Managers at companies who havent adopted this point of view might consider what our senior managers believe, i.e., that the drug industry should adopt modern paradigms that are being applied by other industries such as electronic chip or car manufacturing. The philosophy required is based on three principles:
- tight process control;
- just-in-time manufacturing; and
- striving for zero defects by removing variability from the process.
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